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Frequently Asked Questions...

.50-70 vs. 12 ga. slug vs. kevlar vest...?

Gregg here, here's my stupid question for the day for all of you gun-nuts; Which do you think would do worse on a human being in a kevlar vest? 12 ga. slug (cheap-o remington sluggers) or the old .50-70 blackpowder loadings from a Trapdoor springfield? I own an old Trapdoor (1864), and shoot it. It packs one hell of a wallop (The impact alone damn near rolled a good sized black bear once upon a time ago...), and wonder how it stacks up against a moderate 12 ga. slug. Most informative/entertaining answer gets 10 pts. Courtesy is mandatory.


Answer:

Like Justin said mostly a toss up. A 12 ga slug weighs about can weigh between 1 ounce and 1 3/8 ounces. A 1 1/4 ounce slug is roughly 548 grains and the heaviest bullet that the 50-70 carries is a 550 grain. So with the 12 gauge at .72 inch the energy will be spread out a little more than the 50-70 but either way the hydrostatic shock would crush organs and bones even with the vest.

Kevlar won't necessarily save anyone, it just reduces the chance of greater damage. A shot by a 45acp can still kill someone with a vest, if the shock hits the right organ.

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$72.50
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CLEANING ROD TRAPDOOR 1873 US SPRINGFIELD RIFLE 45 70
$37.00
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FRONT or UPPER STOCK BAND ALLIN TRAPDOOR 1866 US SPRINGFIELD RIFLE 50 70
$18.00
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MIDDLE STOCK BAND SLING SWIVEL ALLIN TRAPDOOR 1866 US SPRINGFIELD RIFLE 50 70
$21.00
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Trapdoor Springfield 45 70 Lock
$180.00
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LOWER STOCK BAND ALLIN TRAPDOOR 1866 US SPRINGFIELD RIFLE 50 70
$21.00
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TRAPDOOR SCREWS 3 EACH LOCK PLATE TANG SPRINGFIELD 50 70 RIFLE
$24.00
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ALLIN BREACH BLOCK TRAPDOOR 1866 US SPRINGFIELD RIFLE 50 70
$59.00
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ALLIN LOCK SIDE PLATE 1862 TRAPDOOR US SPRINGFIELD RIFLE 50 70
$128.45
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Springfield Trapdoor 45 70 Shell Extractor Early Model 1873 CUSTER Period
$6.50
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Springfield Trapdoor CADET BUTT PLATE 50 70 and 45 70 Model 1873 187918841869
$38.55
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Springfield Trapdoor CADET BUTT PLATE SCREWS Model 1855 thru 1869
$13.99
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1873 SPRINGFIELD TRAPDOOR HIGH ARCH THIRD TYPE BREECH BLOCK ASSY TD 06
$159.99
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Springfield Trapdoor FIRING PIN BRONZE 45 70 1873 18791884 1888 Original part
$15.50
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$9.99
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$6.50
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Springfield BREECH BLOCK EARLY CUSTER FIRST Model 1873 45 70 Trapdoor ORIGINAL
$26.00
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Springfield Trapdoor Civil War TANG SCREW 1855 through 1888 Original part
$4.25
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$7.95
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$21.50
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45 70 Springfield RIFLE UPPER BAND Trapdoor Model 1873 18791884 1888 Gun Part
$26.00
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$10.50
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$28.50
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$40.00
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$14.51
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$100.00
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$69.95
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$50.00
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$100.00
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US Springfield Model 1873 Trapdoor Rifle Sight Hood 45 70
$50.00
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$69.95
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$129.99
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Antique Indian War US Ammo Pouch On Belt 1873 Trapdoor Springfield Rifle
$49.00
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$74.00
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$34.00
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$11.50
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$1.99
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$86.00
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$6.50
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$34.99
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$15.99
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$35.00
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$136.97
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$39.99
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$49.99
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$89.99
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$124.99
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$34.99
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$99.99
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$25.00
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$199.95
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Original Trapdoor Springfield Carbine Model 1879 Rear Sight
$125.00
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$10.00
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$10.00
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$14.00
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$30.00
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$11.00
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$14.00
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$15.00
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$29.99
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$19.99
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$25.00
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$24.00
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$21.00
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